Weeble ([info]clockworksaint) wrote,
@ 2009-06-04 16:39:00
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On Endings
Having finished Matter last week, I found myself somewhat underwhelmed by the ending despite enjoying the rest of the book. Indeed, I'm not sure what books I've read lately that had really good endings. The end doesn't lack action, but really doesn't provide a lot else. There's a conflict that comes to a climax and then bam! it's over. Then four pages of epilogue that focuses on a single character. I don't require a Return of the King beginning of the end, middle of the end, beginning of the end of the end sub-saga, but I find this abruptness quite disappointing. I had hoped for some degree of revelation into the motivations of the major players: What did the Oct think they were doing and what was the point in their grand subterfuge? Why was tyl Loesp such a bastard and what were his dealings with the Oct? Did the Aultridia have any actual goals or plans of their own? And who was supposed to have put the thing buried in the Nameless City there in the first place?

I'm not sure what I expect from an ending, but I think part of it is that I take certain things as promises of future explanation, and if they are left unresolved I feel cheated: either the author knows the explanation and chooses not to tell us, or worse, the author hasn't a clue and maybe things are completely inexplicable.

I can't help but feel there's something more subtle that I'm missing here. I'm sure I've read stories that were deliberately ambiguous and not felt the same sense of disappointment. Perhaps it's the difference between something that presents itself as an enigma and something that feels like a cut corner. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?


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[info]ms_medea
2009-06-04 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Look, if you would just read the books I recommend to you this would not be a problem. Jeez.

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[info]clockworksaint
2009-06-05 02:02 pm UTC (link)
Am I going to read whatever book you recommend and find either of the following endings?
  • Everybody is miserable, dies, or dies miserable.
  • The only way to tell it has finished is that there are no more pages.

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[info]ms_medea
2009-06-05 02:06 pm UTC (link)
I can't guarantee the first one won't happen.

But seriously, I've been enjoying the Neil Gaiman I've been reading and those have proper endings.

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[info]lordofthemoon
2009-06-05 12:23 pm UTC (link)
I had the same problem with Matter, it was a great book, but the end was too abrupt with too much left unresolved.

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[info]lazystorm
2009-06-05 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Same with Worldstorm by James Lovegrove. The whole book is about this one special kid being conceived, the one being that might stop the Worldstorm. They go to a lot of trouble to get him born etc. His father is an earth talent from a family of fire talents and his mother is an air talent from a family of water talents. There's a lot of travelling around and fighting and stuff. At the end it says they're going to discover his talent tomorrow and then the book stops. It f*cking STOPS!

What was the point in that? He didn't know? He hadn't thought it through? It was bad writing. That's what it was. And I was really enjoying it until it stopped before the end. :(

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[info]clockworksaint
2009-06-06 10:26 am UTC (link)
Do you think this indicates that &endash; at least from the author's point of view &endash; we're enjoying these books for the wrong reasons? Do they stop because the authors want us to focus on something else? Is this some sort of about-the-journey-not-the-destination thing? If so, why's it not working?

I'm afraid I haven't read Worldstorm. I'm curious though to find someone who was not a bit dissatisfied with the ending of Matter and see what they got out of it.

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[info]lazystorm
2009-06-06 01:10 pm UTC (link)
All the reviews I can find of this book are actually good. Everyone seems to have enjoyed it. One reviewer does say this of Worldstorm:

"The big answers--what brought the Worldstorm into being, how it can be undone (if at all), whether it's linked to the four Inclinations--remain unknown and unknowable."

So maybe I just expect more from a story. Or since I write myself, I recognise bad plot a little more easily.

Do you think this indicates that, at least from the author's point of view, we're enjoying these books for the wrong reasons?

I have my own reasons for enjoying a book. An author can't dictate what enjoyment I take out of a story. And I did enjoy the story, but I felt cheated at the end. In this case very cheated. To me the author told the middle of a story. You don't find out what the worldstorm is, not even a little bit. You don't find out what this child is.

Do they stop because the authors want us to focus on something else?

In this case it would be the blank page that came after it. I'm not saying I want everything resolved, or exact explanations. But something would have been nice, a hint, a little display of the child's talent. Otherwise the story is contrived.

Look at it from my point of view. The book is called Worldstorm, but you don't find out anything about the storm. It may or may not have something to do with the air, earth, fire and water talents. That's all you find out about it in the entire book. It's bad writing. It may as well have not been in it at all. And the whole book is about making this child and you find out nothing about it either. What else is there to focus on? The other little stories in the book get resolved. But the main plot gets stopped abruptly. The only thing I can think of, is that the author didn't know either.

"Is this some sort of about-the-journey-not-the-destination thing? If so, why's it not working?"

I did enjoy the journey. But why add a destination at all if the author is only interested in telling the journey? Or doesn't know what will happen at the destination. So call the book something different, get rid of the contrived storm. And the guy that's meddling to create this unusual kid, just say he's doing it to see what will happen. Not to stop the storm. Then just give a little taste of the child's talent, enough for a thrilling end. Maybe the kid has all four talents. (cool!) That's a much better book. To me it's not working as it is because we realise it's badly written, or badly thought out.

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